Bulletin Board 3A

This page contains the text from the relevant ADVFN Bulletin Boards for Room Service Group, reproduced with their kind permission. Many thanks to Nrockliffe for extracting the information and Greystone for continued support and advice.

Rsv Shareholder's Action Group (AZH)

jmillskeel - 3 Dec'03 - 11:06 - 1 of 711
New thread guys.

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 11:11 - 2 of 711
found yoo

PaulKent - 3 Dec'03 - 11:16 - 3 of 711
i cant open Azure coz it says you need premium services??..anyone else with same problem?..

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 11:19 - 4 of 711
yes me

matto - 3 Dec'03 - 11:25 - 5 of 711
This EPIC spookily similar to AXH. They were involved in a very dodgy reverse takeover. (AXH now QYG and suspended probably broke).

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 11:41 - 6 of 711
j mill
Has all this ended or is their going to be more news. If it has a big well done to yoo anomalous and others involved

londonmetro - 3 Dec'03 - 12:48 - 7 of 711
thanks - after the shannigans of yesterday and today going for a lie down!

Just thought - if Gold and Pearl have sold out - that means one thing

JMILl is Chairman for 1 day!

maxmillion - 3 Dec'03 - 14:17 - 8 of 711
Me Me :
Click on tiny dot beside epic on monitor - crafty crafty.

knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 14:40 - 9 of 711
knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 14:15 - 3221 of 3221 edit
An awful lot of crying over spilt milk today on old thread.

Sorry you ignored my advise to stop throwing good money after bad.

My suggestion to re coup all your losses ,and more ,is to buy as many Proteome Sciences as you can afford ( PRM ).

Do a bit of homework and have a good read of the BB thread before buying.

IMHO these will be £2.50 by Christmas and after then, who knows,the sky is the limit. IMHO

I do hold ( 6 figs )

DYOR

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 14:42 - 10 of 711
will try it

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 14:43 - 11 of 711
max
thanks it worked crafty or what.

Anomalous - 3 Dec'03 - 14:43 - 12 of 711
Hi Group
There will be an email about the legal developments early this evening. We've decided to change the direction of the attack. You'll hear more in the email.
Remain calm, It's not a loss, Knitwit doesn't know what we're up to and neither does the MMs. We'll keep them in the dark, but the lawyers and the press like the idea. Mum's the word.

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 14:45 - 13 of 711
nit wit
Looks like you have dropped another stitch

me me - 3 Dec'03 - 14:47 - 14 of 711
Anomalous
Nice to hear from yoo. Was getting abit worried about yoo not heard from yoo for a while. With yoo all the way

knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 15:36 - 15 of 711
You`ve got to be kidding you you.

londonmetro - 3 Dec'03 - 15:48 - 16 of 711
Thanks for your support guys(not)

directed at those involved in the RNS today

matto - 3 Dec'03 - 15:51 - 17 of 711
He should have resigned before the Chiddingfold D4E.

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 17:31 - 18 of 711
OOOoooohhhh ....... nice new room !!! :-)

decorators have just finished !!!
http://www.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=5351398

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 18:05 - 19 of 711
Thanks for the advice Knitcraft ... will check out (PRM) ......
and if i find out that you are ramping !!!

Bollinger bands widening
Elder force index not looking good
Appears very bearish

Right .... thats it, your for it !!!

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 18:36 - 20 of 711
Anyone dare to try and update the scenario prior to Friday

for instance .... i have 2500 shares bought at approx 11.0p per share on the 21st October after dillution.
This equates to approx to 0.2% of the company to date.
When trading commences on friday, rumour has it that the shares could start trading at 1.0p per share meaning that my shares are worth £25.00p
Bearing in mind also the following

Following admission of the shares to be issued under the Placing and Debt
conversion (details of which were set out in the announcement made by the
Company on 2nd December, 2003) the Company will have 31,242,250 Ordinary Shares
of 1p each in issue. Dealings in the new shares are expected to commence on 5th
December, 2003.

what percentage of the company would i own ?
and have my shares been dilluted again down to approx 10% of their current value.

many many thanks in advance

gunnergonk - 3 Dec'03 - 18:55 - 21 of 711
vh
thats how i worked it out but if you take up the issue at 1p you would then have 2500+25000=27500 costing a total of £550 am i right?
so average per share is now 2p the shares will start at 1p on the mid so say approx .8p bid and 1.2p offer either way u r f***ed. dont feel too bad as ive worked mine out and im dead when the missus sees it!
let me know if u think its correct.

gunnergonk - 3 Dec'03 - 19:00 - 22 of 711
at present i own 2.8% after this dilution it will only be .28% i think but i read somewhere that 27-1 would be the actual dilution if all the shares in the rights issue were snapped up that leaves me with .028% and yours well,sorry i dont do calculations to seven decimal places! lol

gunnergonk - 3 Dec'03 - 19:01 - 23 of 711
vh
one thing is sure they will all be saying "there goes that vanhalen, did you know hes only got a small ......holding" lol

Agincourt - 3 Dec'03 - 19:03 - 24 of 711
Could graphs etc be added to the top of this thread ?

jmillskeel - 3 Dec'03 - 19:41 - 25 of 711
yes...graphs of what yoo,dtc,cyh,azh,evg ???

jmillskeel - 3 Dec'03 - 19:41 - 26 of 711
open 5p 8p..

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 19:43 - 27 of 711
azh I presume

double6 - 3 Dec'03 - 19:43 - 28 of 711
Will EVO not have to buy some shares as soon as trading begins ???

Will it not push price up (excuse my ignorance)

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 19:44 - 29 of 711
I'm going to short this charming share to bits

double6 - 3 Dec'03 - 19:45 - 30 of 711
You work for Evolution ??

Skiboy10 - 3 Dec'03 - 19:45 - 31 of 711
that's nice.

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 19:48 - 32 of 711
hah this is going down to .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 19:49 - 33 of 711
I think we the share holders own 20% and Chiddingford 80%
therefore my dilution is firstly 1/10 then 1/5
please correct me if i am wrong
Oh bollox .... just wait till friday and see what happens :-)

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 19:50 - 34 of 711
thiery =w@nker=nothing useful to say
gunner (23) never had any complaints :-)

double6 - 3 Dec'03 - 19:52 - 35 of 711
theiry - we'll see my boy

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 19:55 - 36 of 711
now now - don't be grumpy

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 19:56 - 37 of 711
thiery ..... you are already a boring old twat....kindly piss off !!!

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 19:57 - 38 of 711
I am only trying to be helpful - in restoring reality

knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 19:58 - 39 of 711
theiry..

You really are wasting your time with this flock??? of ostrich`s

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 20:03 - 40 of 711
knitcraft - don't you start - don't forget I know who you are - you miserable useless stooge of the MMs.

your dishonesty and duplicity disgusts me.

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 20:04 - 41 of 711
There you are theiry ..... a friend for you
Knitcraft .... you know absolutely nothing regarding behind the scenes activity
so if you have anything useful to say then say it .... if not go out for a beer with theiry and enjoy each others company :-)

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 20:06 - 42 of 711
knitcraft and I had a bear (lol a beer) last week - with EVO - very interesting it was.

knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 20:14 - 43 of 711
How the hell did you find out?

It was meant to be a closely guarded secret.

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 20:21 - 44 of 711
cos I was there you wazzock

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 20:21 - 45 of 711
thiery ....please ammend post 29 !!!
it isn't big and it isn't clever

gunnergonk - 3 Dec'03 - 20:31 - 46 of 711
vh
good thinking lets just wait till friday!
we can panic then!
i just dont care now about my money
i want a hangin! sorry i meant justice.

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 20:36 - 47 of 711
gunner ... its the boys who have invested a lot of money i worry for !!!

knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 20:39 - 48 of 711
Should have thought about them when you and your pals were ramping.Too late now,damage is done.

theiry - 3 Dec'03 - 20:41 - 49 of 711
Ah knitcraft - the Lord Haw Haw of ADVFN

Skiboy10 - 3 Dec'03 - 20:55 - 50 of 711

Skiboy10 - 3 Dec'03 - 20:57 - 51 of 711
Kintcraft...........Is that you???

gunnergonk - 3 Dec'03 - 21:09 - 52 of 711
what! you sayin £2741 aint alot of beer vouchers!

Skiboy10 - 3 Dec'03 - 22:32 - 53 of 711
COMPANIES: UK: Azure blues
By Martin Dickson
Financial Times; Dec 03, 2003

Room Service, the tiny shell company embroiled in an extraordinary case of excessive short-selling, intends to change its name to something a little more conventional. It wants to be known as Azure Holdings, which conjures up images of pale blue skies with limitless horizons. Alas, the outlook for the shares over the next few weeks looks much more changeable.

The company is in the unfortunate position that marketmakers have shorted far more shares in the company than have been issued, creating severe settlement problems.

Quite separately from this, Room Service yesterday announced plans - which had been delayed by the authorities' shorting inquiries - for both its name change and a refinancing package designed to eliminate debt and give it some cash for acquisitions. The first step will be a placing and debt for equity swap that will give its major creditor, Chiddingfold, plus associates some 81 per cent.

Those shares, however, will not be available to ease the short-term liquidity problem, for under the Takeover Code Chiddingfold is obliged to make a formal offer for the rest of the company, and a bidder cannot sell shares during an offer period. After the bid is out of the way, the company will make an open offer to existing shareholders - but the settlement fiasco could mean big uncertainty over who is entitled to participate.

Trading in the company's shares, which have been suspended on Aim, are expected to resume on Friday, when the placing and debt conversion are completed. But the Stock Exchange warned yesterday that there remained a severe settlement backlog. The result is bound to be extreme price volatility. Marketmakers that have taken on short positions may bid aggressively for any shares coming on to the market. This is a shambles that reflects very poorly on the London market. The regulatory authorities need to come down hard on those responsible.

knitcraft - 3 Dec'03 - 22:54 - 54 of 711
Couldnt agree more, could have written it myself!!!!!!!!

vanhalen - 3 Dec'03 - 23:08 - 55 of 711
knitcraft....regarding the above
Doesn't appear to be aware that the short crises is over due to the selling out of the directors yesterday straight back to EVO
got 6p a share and a brown envelope stuffed with incentives.......allegedly

bbbb - 3 Dec'03 - 23:34 - 56 of 711
well, if martin dickson is right, one wonders what friday will bring:

'Those shares, however, will not be available to ease the short-term liquidity problem, for under the Takeover Code Chiddingfold is obliged to make a formal offer for the rest of the company, and a bidder cannot sell shares during an offer period'

maybe. but is there anything to prevent chidingfold LENDING some of those shares? perhaps to the directors who sold, to ease the pain of letting go.

if the new shares can be lent, the result is the same - bona fide buyers of the shorted shares screwed with (borrowed) watered stock. with the compliments of the directors. enemas 'r us.

His penultimate sentence is dead right: 'This is a shambles that reflects very poorly on the London market.'

...'The regulatory authorities need to come down hard on those responsible.'

How? Plato's question springs to mind... quis custodes custodiet?
(who shall guard the guardians?)

ccatss - 4 Dec'03 - 04:11 - 57 of 711

jmillskeel - 4 Dec'03 - 07:44 - 58 of 711
Morning all..

Jonck - 4 Dec'03 - 07:48 - 59 of 711
Morning jmill and all.
Am looking forward to hearing the latest. Hopefully today will be a bit less emotional.

nrockliffe - 4 Dec'03 - 08:22 - 60 of 711
Morning everyone.... Gonna sit around for while and see what today brings....
Would one of you send me anomalous' update from last night please... I had mine sent to my work and I'm not there until next Wednesday when it will have all blown over and I will be well and truly SKINT!!!!!!

Send it to nrockliffe@btopenworld.com, it was getting sent to nrockliffe@cls-services.com

Has anyone seen the papers this AM? Are they good?

Thanks....

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 09:12 - 61 of 711
am i right in saying wait for the best price on friday sell out then sue everyone for the rest! cos thats the way i read it?
as then we can quantify our loss, i was going to sell all but one share just to p*ss them off!

me me - 4 Dec'03 - 09:20 - 62 of 711
Im Holding all mine, But if anybody does sell would be a good idea i think to hang on to 1 share

me me - 4 Dec'03 - 09:20 - 63 of 711
Holding 78,000. infact if the price sinks tomorrow i will be adding. And then wait for the bidding war if it comes.

Anomalous - 4 Dec'03 - 10:32 - 64 of 711
Hi guys
Personally I intend to hold as long as possible to see what the MMs do when they start getting desparate.

>Gunnergonk
Yes that's right, if you do intend to sell, you can sue them for the difference between what you sold at and the price you might have received if the other reversal had taken place. In the meantime, you make a separate complaint to the FSA about *** and the ***.
This should get you compensation up to the price the share should have reached under market forces.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 12:42 - 65 of 711
Approx value of a shell company £200,000p

Number of shares tomorrow = 32,000,000 approx
value per share = 0.625p

Number of shares prior to suspension 1,240,000 approx
value per share = 16p

share value reduced to 3.9% of its value prior to suspension

No price hike tomorrow because EVO have already covered their short position or near as damn it !!!

Too risky to buy more shares bearing in mind the magnitude of uncertainties
No point in selling at a major loss, the proof of our losses will be in front of us on the screen !!!

Just my opinions .... what do you think ?

Anomalous - 4 Dec'03 - 12:58 - 66 of 711
> Agincourt, greenchair and the Group

This is why we will hold the complaints about the LSE in our hands whilst they deal with the complaints about the MMs. If we don't get a satisfactory result with reasonable compensation (and fast), then they'll be blitzed with literally hundreds of complaints about you know who.

I believe David and Nick were discussing the ramifications of this yesterday. I'm sure the LSE is aware that denying reasonable compensation will bring even worse publicity. Couple this with the fact that the Conservatives have contacted us and No 10 has finally woken up and passed the buck to HM Treasury. Tony is not stupid, if he can pass this off on Gordon, he will. He has enough trouble over Dr Kelly without adding this one. But Michael won't let the PM off so easily and I'm sure Oliver will feel the same way about Gordon.

Anomalous - 4 Dec'03 - 13:04 - 67 of 711
> Vanhalen

Even if the price does drop like a stone, remember that the courts will view this as evidence of your loss and adjust compensation to match. Likewise, the FSA will view the price that the share should have reached under normal conditions. In conversations with the L**, he considered the price should have reached 30p, whilst I was saying 75p. We agreed to differ, but the point was made that the L** believe the price should have risen by a factor of 3. The FSA will take this into account when they determine the compensation.

Agincourt - 4 Dec'03 - 13:13 - 68 of 711
I have bought one share in EVG.

I believe it would be a good idea if every one did this. EVG would no doubt appreciate it. At least they would be confident of a good attendance at their next AGM.

I also intend, as a shareholder, to write to the chairman expressing my concern at the way "my" company conducts it's business.

I also intend to make a complaint to the Institute of Chartered Accountants about the finance director who is a member. I believe that they will find his conduct unnacceptable.

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 17:06 - 69 of 711
have a look at dtc 50m shares for evo to dish out
what after the slump that had.
haddock,cod + prawns = a bit fishy..............................

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 17:09 - 70 of 711
Gunner .... if you hold, should be ok
company in good shape and should start to take off .....
bollox to EVO ..... they would not dare !!!

Manchan - 4 Dec'03 - 17:35 - 71 of 711
all this talk about selling, lets hold like we said we would and see what happens -remember together we stand

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 17:38 - 72 of 711
Manchan ....
the price will be driven so low .... it would be foolish to sell
IMHO...DYOR...Blah Blah Blah !!! :-)

Skiboy10 - 4 Dec'03 - 17:38 - 73 of 711
Have you seen tonight's RNS...shafted again by the look of it.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 17:40 - 74 of 711
RNS Number:8973S
Azure Holdings PLC
04 December 2003

For immediate release
4th December, 2003

Azure Holdings plc (Formerly Room Service Group plc) ("Azure" or "the Company")

Release of certain placees from dealing restrictions

On 12th November 2003, the investors in the Chiddingfold consortium, who have
subscribed, in aggregate, for 19.5 million new ordinary shares in Azure, all
gave an undertaking to Azure, Chiddingfold and its solicitors, not (inter alia)
to deal in any shares in Azure until Chiddingfold's mandatory offer had lapsed,
in order to ensure compliance with Rule 4.2 of the Takeover Code. This was
because it was assumed that all the parties investing alongside Chiddingfold
would be treated as acting in concert with it. After this had been done, it was
established that certain investors (who had subscribed for 4.5 million new
ordinary shares) were not acting in concert with Chiddingfold, or party to any
other concert party arrangements. The provisions of Rule 4.2 do not, therefore,
apply to them and any restrictions on dealing are only governed by the
undertakings.

In the light of the well publicised difficulties in settling transactions in
Azure shares, Azure, Chiddingfold and its solicitors have agreed to release the
non concert party investors (as set out in Appendix 3B of Chiddingfold's
announcement under Rule 2.5 of the City Code and who hold in aggregate 4.5
million shares) from their undertakings not to deal in Azure shares. This will
permit them to sell shares if they wish, which could alleviate the settlement
difficulties in the market.

matto - 4 Dec'03 - 17:42 - 75 of 711
I would have thought in such circumstances it would be normal to consult the Takeover Panel, but hey what's with breaking another rule.

matto - 4 Dec'03 - 17:49 - 76 of 711
The equity was issued to Chiddingfold and associates only now, in order not to miss the gravy train, these associates are not associated presumably.

Chiddingfold seem to have divied up their D4E placing amongst their associates, but I don't see how they can do that unless they are all part of the same concert party. Otherwise it's akin to selling it which they aren't allowed to do under Takeover Panel rules. The requirement for the mandatory offer is established as soon as the equity is placed with them, they can't hive off portions of it and claim its nothing to do with them.

I presume Anom has contacted the Takeover Panel (Executive).

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 18:02 - 77 of 711
why does this all sound like its been planned for ages? is it because its all running like clockwork, for them.

maxmillion - 4 Dec'03 - 19:01 - 78 of 711
Basically this is one helluva game of chess between Nigel & the Dark Side of the Force. Each one trying to counter & anticipate move for move. Fortunately for us, thanks to Nigel the game is already in check mate but the forces that be will play this to the bitter end.

Kasparov eat your heart out !!

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 19:12 - 79 of 711
lol

Dusseldorf - 4 Dec'03 - 19:20 - 80 of 711
2 million of the shares owned by Libra (Owned by Peter Abbey) can be sold to solve shorting, but those belonging to Chiddingford (Owned by Peter Abbey), cannot.

Someone please explain how this is legal because Peter Abbey owns both! and that they are not concert parties?

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 19:46 - 81 of 711
Can someone draw me a diagram and a map !!!
yours confused !!!
MWH up 19% ...... :-)

knitcraft - 4 Dec'03 - 19:47 - 82 of 711
What a surprise, you have all been shafted AS I HAVE WARNED ALL ALONG.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 19:48 - 83 of 711
OH God ................. here we go !!!

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz

Hope you will be coming along to our celebration party Knitcraft :-)

theiry - 4 Dec'03 - 19:54 - 84 of 711
Wotcha Knitwit

uknighted - 4 Dec'03 - 20:00 - 85 of 711
vh
Thanks for your response on the other thread.

Gunnergonk
Do like your suggestion that when we do sell we retain 1 share. I like that very much. Of course when Abbey gets his hands on the majority we will be obliged to sell under the threat that the remaining share will probably be untradable. Now do we care????? Not a jot!!!

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 20:00 - 86 of 711
i want to meet this "peter abbey" and shake him warmly by the throat! how can this guy go to bed and sleep?
if he reads this i would just like him to know that what him and his "friends" have now done is destroyed without trace any hope of a decent christmas for my family, as i have now been served with a redundancy notice from work! they have turned my £2751 into virtually diddley squat. ok you are always told dont invest what you cant afford to loose, i was not redundant when i made the investment and without the help of these people my investment subjected to "usual market forces" would have been worth an estimated 25-30p. i am however not a greedy man and would have most probably sold at around 15p making a good enough profit. But some people ARE greedy and when seen, an opertunity to screw someone over for every penny they have is too good to miss.

I have now had enough of this situation and will be going to bed, one thing is sure i WILL be able to sleep tonight. to the people who ever they are and where ever they maybe you know that you ripped me off for this money and one day i hope your wives and children get to read this and see what sort of people you realy are.
thankyou for letting me have my say.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 20:05 - 87 of 711
Knitcraft and you other smug w@nkers !!!

happy about post 86 are we ?

Hhhhmmmmm !!!

ps ... the very best of luck Gunner old boy !!!

maxmillion - 4 Dec'03 - 20:06 - 88 of 711
Knitcraft :

Who is the more foolish - the `fool` or the `fool` that follows ?

Why not give it a break now - you have said your piece ! With this constant "I told you so" `reassurances` do you really expect anyone to listen ?

You seem to `ass-ume` so BUT you will not make an `ass` of `u` & `me` and I am sure I speak for all RSV Group Holders !!

Regards

Max

uknighted - 4 Dec'03 - 20:08 - 89 of 711
Gunnergonk
Sorry to learn of your plight and I hope that something turns up quickly.
Regretfully despite all his wealth I doubt if PA has a conscience and hopefully, if he has the wife and family he deserves, they wont have one either.
Always think positively and I'm sure you will find success in 2004.

uknighted - 4 Dec'03 - 20:14 - 90 of 711
Knitcraft
Just in case you didn't read it ( or understand it )- from our other thread.

uknighted - 2 Dec'03 - 21:08 - 3172 of 3259 edit
Knitcraft
Is there a point you are trying to make or are you making such a showing because for the first time in your life you have been right about something.

Let me assure you that like many on this thread I am now standing in awe of your intelligence and superior knowledge, and admiring you for being such a
compassionate individual and wishing I had your intelligence - BUT DEEP DOWN THANKFUL AND IMMENSELY GRATEFUL THAT I HAVEN'T.

The seasons greetings to you.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 20:17 - 91 of 711
I hope PA's wife looks something like this

oink oink !!!

maxmillion - 4 Dec'03 - 20:47 - 92 of 711
Unknighted :

You may arise a `Sir` & consider yourself on my Christmas card list.

Parasitology is a lifetimes work for some people but if you become a legend in your own lifetime you must condense your affections to maximise your spare time.
I am sure the sign above the shop would prove much too tiresome, boring & un-attractive if it read `Parasitology marketed through various channels including art, material and needlework so condensed `knitcraft` would prove extremely fitting and enable maximum time for recreation including BB research & abuse.

Max

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 21:00 - 93 of 711
yes knitcraft i usualy refrain from deflamatory remarks about self centred know it all i told u so buletin board posters but in your case i will make an exception as u really are and have shown yourself to be the most small minded pathetic wart on the arse of humanity that i have ever had the displeasure to know exists as u realy are an aggrevating f***ing b****rd, now p*ss off.

theiry - 4 Dec'03 - 21:04 - 94 of 711
You only have to do a search at companies house for Peter Abbeys home address. They will take a credit card and fax the results to you. lol

theiry - 4 Dec'03 - 21:05 - 95 of 711
You only have to do a search at companies house for Peter Abbeys home address. They will take a credit card and fax the results to you. lol

theiry - 4 Dec'03 - 21:05 - 96 of 711
You only have to do a search at companies house for Peter Abbeys home address. They will take a credit card and fax the results to you. lol

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 21:06 - 97 of 711
theiry
are u an arsenal supporter?
(the name)

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 21:07 - 98 of 711
yes knitcraft i usualy refrain from deflamatory remarks about self centred know it all i told u so buletin board posters but in your case i will make an exception as u really are and have shown yourself to be the most small minded pathetic wart on the arse of humanity that i have ever had the displeasure to know exists as u realy are an aggrevating f***ing b****rd, now p*ss off.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 21:08 - 99 of 711
And before you know it ........ up pops the other sad w@nker !!!

Just consulted my book of abbreviations ....... waddayano !!!

thiery ..... short for ..... attention seeking twat !!!

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 21:13 - 100 of 711
lol

theiry - 4 Dec'03 - 21:17 - 101 of 711
Vanhalen

I am NOT thiery LOL

and what part of my statement is untrue

YOu only have to do a search at companies house for Peter Abbeys home address. They will take a credit card and fax the results to you. lol

theiry - 4 Dec'03 - 21:18 - 102 of 711
Indeed my the sole purpose of my existence is to aggravate that moron thiery.

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 21:25 - 103 of 711
hang on ..... sorry theiry .... my mistake !!!
let me check my book again .... Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm

Oh here it is THEIRY ...... yep !!!
still says "attention seeking twat" ...... sorry !!!

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 21:35 - 104 of 711
did u know brugha has 100k rsv shares?

maxmillion - 4 Dec'03 - 21:47 - 105 of 711
VH :

C ya down the pub - gnite all..

vanhalen - 4 Dec'03 - 21:48 - 106 of 711
gnite gnite :-)

knitcraft - 4 Dec'03 - 22:57 - 107 of 711
Any chance of some humble pie from you losers,as you asked me for at the end of this saga ( as this is ).You have only yourselves to blame for listening to the wrong voices.

Perhaps Gunnergonk lost his job as he made bad business as well as investment decisions.

I dislike the abuse directed at me and find it offensive,you are all very bad losers and IMHO deserve all you get.

uknighted - 4 Dec'03 - 22:57 - 108 of 711
I think Brugha has missed the consolidation. I think he will find he only has 1000. AIMHO

Maxmillion -Can you be knighted twice? My address is ...............

Parasitology - must find a way of using that one tomorrow. I know, Parasitology is the practice of MMs.
Parasitology is short for Peter Abbey
Parasitology is the study of men falling out of the sky and landing in the seated position.
No I like the first two best, more plausible.

Seasons Greetings and a prosperous 2004 to all.
Uk

brugha - 4 Dec'03 - 23:00 - 109 of 711
no no I know i have 1000 azure shares

but I bought 100000 rsv shares

gunnergonk - 4 Dec'03 - 23:14 - 110 of 711
knitcraft=total and utter w@nker

Karma Sooty - 4 Dec'03 - 23:22 - 111 of 711

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 06:32 - 112 of 711
Morning all .....
Bacon sarny and now ready for the off !!!

Seriously check out DTC, DYOR Blah Blah Blah !!!

Jonck - 5 Dec'03 - 07:11 - 113 of 711
RNS Number:9015S
AIM
05 December 2003

NOTICE

(480)

05/12/2003 7:00am

The London Stock Exchange admits the following securities to trading on AIM:

AZURE HOLDINGS PLC
30,000,000 Ordinary Shares of 1p each (3-369-236)(GB0033692368)

fully paid

(Ex Entitlement)

Whilst the settlement obligations in relation to the short position in Azure
Holdings Plc (formerly Room Service Group plc) are clarified, in particular the
entitlements under the Open Offer of those who have purchased shares and whose
transactions remain unsettled, trading in the Company's shares will remain
suspended.

The Exchange continues to work with market participants towards achieving an
effective resolution to this matter and will keep the market updated of further
developments.

If you have any queries or require further information, please contact Issuer
Implementation on 020 7797 1564.

AIMNOT480

This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
END

AMOEAPALEEDDFFE

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 07:19 - 114 of 711
Suspended .........excellent news !!!

Jonck - 5 Dec'03 - 07:22 - 115 of 711
I was hoping it would be after yesterdays RNS.

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 07:24 - 116 of 711
Think the LSE are catching onto the gravity of the situation !!!

psps - 5 Dec'03 - 07:40 - 117 of 711
suspended ?

me me - 5 Dec'03 - 07:53 - 118 of 711
WHAT !!!!!

gunnergonk - 5 Dec'03 - 07:58 - 119 of 711
what does this mean now?
will we have no choice but to take up the rights issue?

Dusseldorf - 5 Dec'03 - 08:02 - 120 of 711
Another complete waste of time. The short positions have been closed, but entitlements to 1p share issue have not been resolved, the shares are still 'worth less' and will go down to 1p immediately upon relisting.

suahb - 5 Dec'03 - 08:04 - 121 of 711
dusseldorf, you are just bitter you sold CRX at 2p aren't you???? we both bought at the same but i sold at 15. i do have RSV but not many.

jmillskeel - 5 Dec'03 - 08:14 - 122 of 711
Hi all..

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 08:14 - 123 of 711
I think it means that the LSE would not dare to trade AZH untill all the outstanding disputes have been settled.
It must give us more time to turn the screw which is not a bad thing IMHO

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 08:15 - 124 of 711
Hi jmill ....... wadooya finks ?

suahb - 5 Dec'03 - 08:20 - 125 of 711
can only be good news - whether thats financial for us or justice for us v EVO then it has to be good - lots of w/e coverage no doubt

maxmillion - 5 Dec'03 - 08:49 - 126 of 711
VERY GOD NEWS ! Oops - a typo...but then again He does work in mysterious ways.

I feel justice will be done and as said previously - Kasparov eat it out.

Bottom line is NO ONE can sell and its looking like the LSE, Uncle Tom Cobley et al doesn`t want a bad after taste - after all.

As shouted from the back door steps in a true Nora Batty comedy styli - COMPO !!

jmillskeel - 5 Dec'03 - 08:52 - 127 of 711
Have any of guys phoned the number on the rns ???

You might want too..

londonmetro - 5 Dec'03 - 08:58 - 128 of 711
not yet but was thinking of doing is it worth the phone call

gunnergonk - 5 Dec'03 - 08:58 - 129 of 711
and.........................................?

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:00 - 130 of 711
All that is happening is that the individuals at the FSA and the LSE AND AIM are taking a little time out to ensure that they personally have their arses covered.

They don't care about anything but themselves. If they did the concept of "right and wrong" might have crept into this.

When trying to work out what they are up to it is no good think what a decent person would do. They have no concept of decency. Self interest is everything to them. The more senior they are the more that is true - for however else would they have aspired to that position.

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:01 - 131 of 711
In their world anyone with any principles gets wasted very early on.

gunnergonk - 5 Dec'03 - 09:02 - 132 of 711
i only want my money back plus two pennys, so i can visit knitwit and his mate theiry and tell them they were wrong and id made a profit! then i would force feed them both a penny each!
might need a bit of muscle with me any one up for it?

psps - 5 Dec'03 - 09:07 - 133 of 711
what good (if any) will come out now ?

nrockliffe - 5 Dec'03 - 09:07 - 134 of 711
Jmillskeel... You said to us that we might want to phone the number.... What am I supposed to say "Listen you mother F**£$"! what are you playing at?" or words to that effect....

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:10 - 135 of 711
Yes something very much along those lines

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:16 - 136 of 711
If I remember rightly:-

When all this started - IT WAS FOR FUN
Whatever happened - IT WOULD BE FOR FUN
It was worth the money BECAUSE IT WAS FOR FUN

Well, quite apart from the legal side let us have some fun.

So I will try and round up some phone numbers.

greenchair - 5 Dec'03 - 09:17 - 137 of 711
Azure Holdings PLC
05 December 2003

Embargoed: Not to be released until 9.00 a.m. on

5th December, 2003

Azure Holdings Plc (formerly Room Service Group Plc)
('Azure' or the 'Company')

On 2nd December, 2003 Chiddingfold Investments Limited announced the terms of a
mandatory offer for the Company.

Following the admission of 30,000,000 Ordinary Shares of 1p each pursuant to the
Placing and Debt Conversion (announced on 2nd December, 2003), Azure, confirms
under Rule 2.10 of the City Code on Takeovers and Mergers that;

the Company has 31,242,250 Ordinary Shares of 1p each in issue and
admitted to the Alternative Investment Market under the ISIN Code
GB0033692368; and

the Company has granted options over 177,728 ordinary shares of 1p each
which are outstanding.

This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:17 - 138 of 711
Someone do a companies house search for Libra Investments Limited

It will give Peter Abbeys home address

You can pay by credit card - not expensive - and they will fax it to you today

GET ON WITH IT NOW

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:20 - 139 of 711
A similar search for Evolution will yield the same result

HOME ADDRESSES

jmillskeel - 5 Dec'03 - 09:20 - 140 of 711

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:21 - 141 of 711
The Evolution Group plc
100 Wood Street
London
EC2V 7AN

Telephone: 44 (0) 20 7071 4300
Facsimile: 44 (0) 20 771 4450
E-mail: enquiries@evbg.com

psps - 5 Dec'03 - 09:22 - 142 of 711
so whats gonna happen when and IF they remove the suspension

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:23 - 143 of 711
OK then think latterally.

He must be a director of another company in UK

Find it
Then do search
Look in Phone book
Directory enquiries in Monaco
WE can find anybody we want to
It just takes the will

nrockliffe - 5 Dec'03 - 09:23 - 144 of 711
There is no Libra Investments at Companies House.... There is a free search which allows you to check company names..... so as jmillskeel as already said, they are not based in the UK... My guess would be Monaco where Chiddingfold are.... and Abbey....

Dusseldorf - 5 Dec'03 - 09:24 - 145 of 711
suahb - Yes, I am still bitter about my CRX, selling at 2p was the biggest mistake I ever made even If I did get 80% profit - I enjoy telling people what I fool I was to sell them.

Well done on holding to 15p! I guess you could subsidise everyones losses here on RSV? ! Watch PMG, CYB, BIT, CYC, MDY, ILX over the next three weeks, PMG will go up over 100% when relisted, I garauntee it :)

jmillskeel - 5 Dec'03 - 09:24 - 146 of 711
Look at the header..

psps - 5 Dec'03 - 09:25 - 147 of 711
sod this Abbey guy......justy wanns know what happens next with AZURE

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:25 - 148 of 711
The Evolution Group plc
100 Wood Street
London
EC2V 7AN

Telephone: 44 (0) 20 7071 4300
Facsimile: 44 (0) 20 771 4450
E-mail: enquiries@evbg.com

Richard Griffiths Chairman
Alex Snow CEO
Graeme Dell Finance (FCA lol)

Non Executive (do they know - their reputation gone )
David Norwood Director
Oliver Vaughan Director
Malcolm Field Director
George Louden Director

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:26 - 149 of 711
Chiddingfold in in Gibralter so Libra probably is there to.

gunnergonk - 5 Dec'03 - 09:26 - 150 of 711
no libra are gibraltar registered

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:28 - 151 of 711
OH Well - if you can't be bothered - why should I care. I've got plenty else to do.

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:32 - 152 of 711
AND
Buy a share in EVG

Then you can legitimately phone the chairman and complain about the way they are conducting their business.

and you can attend their AGM and ask questions for years and years, and disrupt it lol.

I have one.

maxmillion - 5 Dec'03 - 09:35 - 153 of 711
COMPANIES UK: Relisting of shell's shares halted
By Elizabeth Rigby
Financial Times; Dec 05, 2003

Shares in Room Service, the Aim-listed shell company at the centre of a short-selling scandal, will not resume trading today because of continued settlement difficulties.

The decision to keep the shares suspended is an abrupt about-turn. Two days ago, both the LSE and Room Service, now re-named Azure Holdings, said the shares would start trading today after a refinancing deal for the company was agreed.

The shares were suspended on October 22.

It is not known when the stock will start trading again. The LSE decided not to allow trading yet because of the heavy short positions in the stock.

Last week it emerged that market-makers, such as Evolution Beeson Gregory, had sold more stock in the company than actually existed.

This has meant they have been unable to close their positions.

In the case of Room Service, market-makers sold "naked" - without entering agreements to borrow the underlying stock.

However, it also emerged yesterday that more stock in the company had become available as part of this week's refinancing deal. Room Service said 4.5m of the 30m new shares issued could be sold on.

The LSE said last night: "The decision was taken not to resume trading when there are still these settlement issues and a lot of scope for price distortion."

It also noted that the unsettled trades meant that many shareholders, who have not been delivered their share certificates, would not be able to take up the 10-for-one open offer, which was agreed as part of the refinancing deal.

Room Service last night declined to comment on the LSE's decision.

me me - 5 Dec'03 - 09:38 - 154 of 711
This gets stincker by the minute. Could'ent give a flying f**k if i lost my money the LSE FSA and EVO are all taking the piss big time. Going to spread the word not to invest in london a third world stock exchange has better regs than london. Loosing 5k is no big deal for me (peanuts). Anomalous called this barings Bank mark 2. He is dead right. Get the court paper's ready what ever it cost's this is going all the way !!!

maxmillion - 5 Dec'03 - 09:39 - 155 of 711
ME ME :
ME TOO !!

me me - 5 Dec'03 - 09:40 - 156 of 711
Agincourt.
Nice idea will buy a share, will wait until it drops to less than 50p

nrockliffe - 5 Dec'03 - 09:40 - 157 of 711
Unfortunately, I can't afford to go down the legal route so, I am going to present my asshole to EVO, Peter Abbey and all the rest of them and let them do me cos that is what it feels like.....

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:44 - 158 of 711
I have just phoned Graham Dell FCA Finance Director of EVG. He was busy. I have informed his secretary that I am making a complaint about him to the Institute of Chartered Accountants with the aim (lol) of getting him expelled.

The numbers to call are EVG Telephone: 44 (0) 20 7071 4300

and the institute 0207 7920 8400

maxmillion - 5 Dec'03 - 09:44 - 159 of 711
Sorry guys for all the posts but I felt you would like to read it.

COMPANIES UK: Room Service bounces back into the blue
By Clay Harris and Elizabeth Rigby
Financial Times; Dec 05, 2003

To capture the Zeitgeist of the late dotcom bubble and succeeding years, one needs look no further than the tangled tale of Room Service Group, born as Cube8.com in 2000 and now reinvented as Azure Holdings.

But if hindsight provokes laughter at companies called Blue Carrots, TaoTalk, Prizescratch.com and Freeloader, in all of which it once invested, the group's history also raises timeless questions about stock market shells.

The story of Room Service reveals how messy things can get when it comes to shell companies. Some shareholders are angry about this week's deal, which will see an investor group, including a concert party led by Chiddingfold Investments, take control of the company.

On top of this, Room Service is at the centre of a short-selling scandal. Market-makers sold more shares in the company than existed, leaving some shareholders without share certificates and voting rights.

The short-selling debacle has prompted a regulatory investigation on the part of the Financial Services Authority and the London Stock Exchange.

The latest setback is the news that the shares will not resume trading today as the company had hoped.

Chiddingfold, an offshore company owned by Peter Abbey, and its concert party - redefined yesterday to exclude some of new investors - will holdup to 96 per cent of its equity after a debt conversion and share subscription valuing Azure t at only £312,000.

Existing investors - providing they are on the share register - will be able to ameliorate the dilution by participating in a 10-for-one open offer at 1p to raise up to £120,000.

Because of the size of its interest, Chiddingfold is obliged to make a full bid at 1p a share under the Takeover Code. Acceptances are expected to be few as the shares last traded at 6½p.

The numbers are minuscule compared with Cube8.com's £55m value when it joined Aim in February 2000. From its placing price of 17p - equal to 170p when comparing today's price because of a 10-for-one consolidation - it closed at a 50 per cent premium on its first day of trading.

But that euphoria seems a long time ago. Participants in the initial placing had already lost 96 per cent of their investment by the time the shares were suspended. The company has also bled £10m-plus in cash.

Then there is the settlement crisis, which has left many investors disenfranchised and out of pocket.

Market-makers such as Evolution Beeson Gregory have shorted the shares "naked", whereby they did not enter into arrangements to borrow the underlying stock, leaving them unable to settle trades.

They did this because they thought more Room Service shares were coming on to the market through a planned rights issue. When that fell through, the short-sellers were unable to close their positions.

This left many shareholders without share certificates and unable to vote at October's annual meeting when the first stage of the Chiddingfold deal was approved.

Nigel Smith, a co-ordinator for the Room Service Shareholder's Action Group, said he, along with 80 other shareholders, wanted to vote for an alternative deal, led by George Allnutt, the West Country entrepreneur.

Mr Allnutt says his hands were tied. "I acquire shell companies and put things into them and try to turn them round. I bought a 8.2 per cent stake in Room Service as a gamble. It was a cheap way of getting hold of it and the idea was to go to the AGM and put together an alternative proposal. However, my shares were never delivered."

Now, says Mr Smith, shareholders are facing a further dilution of their shares once the Chiddingfold deal goes through. "In the next few days, more people are going to sell. They are not very happy people because they believe they have been shafted. It is not a very nice term but it describes the situation. Had the LSE and FSA consulted us and allowed an agreed solution between the shareholders and the market-makers, we would have been able to reach an agreement that would have protected minority shareholders."

Mr Smith said the shareholders were still planning legal action against three market-makers. He also said they would file claims to the FSA for "market abuse".

A person close to the LSE said the exchange was in a "catch-22" position. "To fill the short position, you have to let the market-makers buy up the stock again. It is a really complicated issue. If you don't let trading resume, you can't sort it out. As to the shareholders' rights, the LSE is working with the FSA."

The company has seen a lot of change in its short life. Cube8.com, as its name suggests, started as an internet incubator.

But even its latterly cautious approach to investments in the sector was not enough to buck the trend as the internet became poison rather than paradise.

In December 2001, it changed name and direction by acquiring Room Service Group, which delivered food and drink to homes and offices in London.

Within a year of the deal being completed, the UK operation was placed in voluntary liquidation. However, the home delivery business is still trading, having been acquired by an unrelated company, Room Service Deliveries, this year.

For Room Service Group, the past year has been a struggle. Its shares were suspended on July 1 because of a failure to file accounts.

When that was remedied in September, the shares resumed trading for about a month before being suspended again on October 22 when refinancing plans hit a snag.

Although its net debts were never huge, in the low six figures, shareholders' funds were wiped out. This has allowed Mr Abbey and his associates to gain control of the shell for a nominal amount.

Mr Abbey, a 58-year-old Briton based in Monaco, also bought this year the assets of Sportsetail, an insolvent subsidiary of Hay& Robertson, another shell company caught in the limbo of liquidation.

What he intends to do with Azure, now a small but clean listed shell, is not known.

But with some investors always willing to take a punt on the next big thing, no doubt - in the words of Irving Berlin - it will be "nothing but blue skies from now on".

Skiboy10 - 5 Dec'03 - 09:53 - 160 of 711
Has anyone else been sent details of the rights issue by post this morning?
I assume I am on the register then???

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:53 - 161 of 711
I have just phoned Graham Dell FCA Finance Director of EVG. He was busy. I have informed his secretary that I am making a complaint about him to the Institute of Chartered Accountants with the aim (lol) of getting him expelled.

The numbers to call are EVG Telephone: 44 (0) 20 7071 4300

and the institute 0207 7920 8400

GO FOR HIM

A Chartered Accountants greatest fear is expulsion. Let him know that you are going to complain, then complain and he will move heaven and earth to protect himself. While he is under investigation the Institute will treat him like he has lepresy. Just think - whatever he does he will have to disclose it. He won't even be able to apply for a new job - no one would touch him lol

Skiboy10 - 5 Dec'03 - 09:56 - 162 of 711
Agincourt - Peter Abbey's mobile number is on the offer document. Do you want it?

me me - 5 Dec'03 - 09:57 - 163 of 711
Agincourt
Ringing them now

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 09:57 - 164 of 711
Peter Abbey Company

SPORTS ETAIL LIMITED
GRANT THORNTON
GRANT THORNTON HOUSE
MELTON STREET EUSTON SQUARE
LONDON NW1 2EP
Status :ADMINISTRATION ORDER

Accounting Reference Date : 31/12
Last Accounts Made Up To : 31/12/2001 (FULL)
Next Accounts Due : 31/10/2003 OVERDUE
Last Return Made Up To : 29/09/2002
Next Return Due : 27/10/2003 OVERDUE

Last Members List : 29/09/2001

Company Name : SPORTS ETAIL LIMITED
Company Number : 03850264
Number of Cases :1
To obtain details of the practitioner click on the appropriate case type description.
Case Number : 1 (of 1 cases)
Case Type : ADMINISTRATION ORDERS
Admin. Order Date : 31/03/2003

Company Name : SPORTS ETAIL LIMITED
Company Number : 03850264
Case Number : 1
Case Type : ADMINISTRATION ORDERS

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Practitioner name: HOSKING, ANDREW LAWRENCE

Practitioner address: GRANT THORNTON
GRANT THORNTON HOUSE
MELTON STREET
EUSTON SQUARE
LONDON NW1 2EP

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Practitioner name: MORRIS, SIMON CHARLES

Practitioner address: GRANT THORNTON HOUSE
MELTON STREET
EUSTON SQUARE
LONDON
NW1 2EP

Skiboy10 - 5 Dec'03 - 09:58 - 165 of 711
Chiddington Investements Ltd
Peter Abbey - 07764 783727

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 10:00 - 166 of 711
HAY & ROBERTSON PLC
11 ATHOLL CRESCENT
EDINBURGH
MIDLOTHIAN EH3 8HE
Status :Active
Company No. :SC025853
Date of Incorporation : 31/10/1947

Country of Origin : United Kingdom

Company Type: Public Limited Company
Nature Of Business (SIC(92)):
1823 - Manufacture of underwear
5142 - Wholesale of clothing and footwear

Accounting Reference Date : 31/12
Last Accounts Made Up To : 31/12/2001 (GROUP)
Next Accounts Due : 31/07/2003 OVERDUE
Last Return Made Up To : 01/01/2003
Next Return Due : 29/01/2004

Last Members List : 01/01/2003
Last Bulk Shareholders List : 01/01/2003

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 10:01 - 167 of 711
Don't you ?

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 10:01 - 168 of 711
Put the number up here

everyone ring it - again and again and again

me me - 5 Dec'03 - 10:01 - 169 of 711
Just rang EVO. Mr G Dell will be shi**ing bricks when he comes out of his meeting

Dusseldorf - 5 Dec'03 - 10:02 - 170 of 711
As much as I dislike EVO at the moment, going after the FD is not going to help, it would have been one of his minions that created this big mess by trying to make a quick buck. IMO, this person should be named and shamed just like Nick Leeson, who knows he may even be on celebrity weakest link like too.

Skiboy10 - 5 Dec'03 - 10:02 - 171 of 711
Chiddington Investements Ltd
Peter Abbey - 07764 783727

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 10:04 - 172 of 711
The Evolution Group plc
100 Wood Street
London
EC2V 7AN

Telephone: 44 (0) 20 7071 4300
Facsimile: 44 (0) 20 771 4450
E-mail: enquiries@evbg.com

Richard Griffiths Chairman
Alex Snow CEO
Graeme Dell Finance (FCA lol)

Non Executive (do they know - their reputation gone )
David Norwood Director
Oliver Vaughan Director
Malcolm Field Director
George Louden Director

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 10:05 - 173 of 711
I have just phoned Graham Dell FCA Finance Director of EVG. He was busy. I have informed his secretary that I am making a complaint about him to the Institute of Chartered Accountants with the aim (lol) of getting him expelled.

The numbers to call are EVG Telephone: 44 (0) 20 7071 4300

and the institute 0207 7920 8400

GO FOR HIM

A Chartered Accountants greatest fear is expulsion. Let him know that you are going to complain, then complain and he will move heaven and earth to protect himself. While he is under investigation the Institute will treat him like he has lepresy. Just think - whatever he does he will have to disclose it. He won't even be able to apply for a new job - no one would touch him lol

Agincourt - 5 Dec'03 - 10:20 - 174 of 711
http://www.icaew.co.uk Institute of Chartered Accountants

matto - 5 Dec'03 - 10:43 - 175 of 711
Well the suspension seems good on the face of it - lets hope it doesn't give them an opportunity to wriggle out of it.

Regarding Takeover Panel rules on concert parties, see the "Definitions" as follows:

Acting in concert
This definition has particular relevance to mandatory offers and further
guidance with regard to behaviour which constitutes acting in concert is given
in the Notes on Rule 9.1.
 

Persons acting in concert comprise persons who, pursuant to an agreement
or understanding (whether formal or informal), actively co-operate, through
the acquisition by any of them of shares in a company, to obtain or
consolidate control (as defined below) of that company.
 

Without prejudice to the general application of this definition, the following
persons will be presumed to be persons acting in concert with other persons
in the same category unless the contrary is established:—
 

(1) a company, its parent, subsidiaries and fellow subsidiaries, and their
associated companies, and companies of which such companies are
associated companies, all with each other (for this purpose ownership or
control of 20% or more of the equity share capital of a company is regarded
as the test of associated company status);
(2)...
(3)...
(4)...
(5)...
(6) directors of a company which is subject to an offer or where the directors
have reason to believe a bona fide offer for their company may be imminent.


NOTES ON ACTING IN CONCERT
1. ...
2. ...
3. ...
4. ...
5. Consortium offers
Investors in a consortium (eg through a vehicle company formed for the
purpose of making an offer) will normally be treated as acting in concert with
the offeror. Where such an investor is part of a larger organisation, the Panel
should be consulted to establish which other parts of the organisation will
also be regarded as acting in concert.

matto - 5 Dec'03 - 11:36 - 176 of 711
All those receiving placing shares must be part of the same consortium, otherwise why should they be receiving placing shares and not any old Tom, Dick or Harry. As a consortium they will be considered by the Takeover Panel as acting in concert.

It would also appear that Gerald Gold could be considered to be acting in concert as a director of a company which is subject to an offer. He should also therefore fall under the same rules which do not allow selling of shares.

jmillskeel - 5 Dec'03 - 11:49 - 177 of 711
http://www.rsvshareholders.co.uk/html/news.html

clocktower - 5 Dec'03 - 12:03 - 178 of 711
Keep up the good work.

If the LSE are watching these Bulletin Boards as you state on your website. Then I hope they take action for once and start to review how low esteem they are viewed in by many investors.

As for FSA, what do they do to protect small investors?

gunnergonk - 5 Dec'03 - 12:08 - 179 of 711
bugger all!

VERY QUICK - 5 Dec'03 - 12:51 - 180 of 711
Looks like someone bought 1.2 million shares. How can they do that when shares are suspended and new shares are not trading yet.?????????????
Check RNS.

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 12:51 - 181 of 711
Cant see them VQ ?

VERY QUICK - 5 Dec'03 - 12:53 - 182 of 711
Looks like someone else bought 2.5 million shares also.
Check RNS.

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 13:11 - 183 of 711
Is all this movement and buying legal ..... if we had our proper right to vote at the meeting none of this would have happened surely !!!

jmillskeel - 5 Dec'03 - 13:16 - 184 of 711
Anomalous - 5 Dec'03 - 12:44 - 3297 of 3297

> JakNife

The newspapers are certainly not one-sided. They are presenting this story accurately, exactly and correctly. This is a human interest story, because the small investor, the housewife, the pensioner and the family man have been abused by both the market makers, the shell raiders and the regulators. They can see that the market rules were not just bent, they were broken beyond belief in a most blatant manner.

Some of the major holders had been building positions in RSV in the weeks prior to the shorting. If you want to check this, I suggest you look at the RNSs concerning Margaret Samea. Some of the others purchased RSV shares purely on speculation. Nearly all investment is speculative to some degree. But once they had researched the company and correctly surmised that a recovery was not only possible, but desirable and extremely beneficial, even to minority shareholders, they acted together to try and steer the company away from the precipice it now appears to have fallen off.

Each of these investors purchased considerable holdings. Their percentages were enough to not only call an EGM, but to elect new directors with the ability to transform a tired shell into a thriving and prosperous operational business.

Even after the AGM on the 20 October, these entrepreneurs tried to acquire their voting rights, so that an EGM could be called. If the Market Makers had not abused their license to short on a small scale, these businessmen would have been able to bring off a corporate recovery and protect the interests of all the shareholders and especially the minority holders. We are not denying that a Debt for Equity deal would have been necessary. But on the same scale as the present Board? Absolutely not.

The LSE was aware of our proposals and agreed with us that a meeting between all the interested parties (shareholders, company, market makers and regulators) would not only be desirable but absolutely essential to solving the shortage problem, without further publicity. It was only when the market makers and the regulators refused to do something about it, that we felt it necessary to bring the matter to the attention of the press.

I accept your compliment about my PR efforts. I’ve had no training in this field whatsoever. The reason that we’ve received so much press coverage is because the press (and the Finance Select Committee), are aware that the regulators have been almost inactive, even “comatose”, when breaches of the regulations (like this case) happen under their noses. Their new executives have been regularly appearing in the press and adopting a tough stance (even raising their fists, as shown in the Daily Mail), yet all we’ve heard so far is words. The FSMA does limit what they can say to some extent, whilst they are investigating. They have limited themselves to saying that it is a “serious market abuse” or ”We are looking into the matter and treating it very seriously”. But no one from the regulatory bodies have contacted us to ask for our views or opinion on how the matter could be resolved, even though we offered our help to both the FSA and the LSE.

The market regulators ought to hang their heads in shame, that they allowed not only the naked shorting to occur, when they knew something was wrong, but also the exploitation of this problem by people who had not even been injured in the first place.

In my opinion, it is time for someone at HM Treasury to start asking when the FSA will start investigating the LSE for their conduct. Over 2,000 individual shareholders now have a reason to make a complaint to the FSA. If the LSE won’t clean house, then maybe the politicians will have to request that the FSA do it for them. And this time be seen to do it rather than just courting publicity with a new PR image.

matto - 5 Dec'03 - 13:17 - 185 of 711
These are holdings by people who are/were part of the concert party identified in the RNS "Mandatory Offer" (under the RSV EPIC).

vanhalen - 5 Dec'03 - 13:20 - 186 of 711
Advice for Mr Davis (new shareholder) ........ Do not put your